Loraine 28 TARA 28 licensed

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Loraine 28 TARA 28 licensed

Príspevok od užívateľa Neregistrovaný » 06 Jan 2008, 13:43

We have find a Loraine 28 which as been built for French Army in 1939 under the TATRA licence (TATRA 28 6X4 )
For its rebuilt, we needs informations, notices, maybe parts .

Is there some of this cars still alive in the world?

I need contacts about this.
I am mysel user of TATRA trucks : T 815 and T 148 for work (Construction), and T 138 with crane as collector véhicle .

Answere can be in French (My country), English (I can read) or TCHETISH (I can made translate by a friend)

Contact at patloel@free.fr

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Re: Loraine 28 TARA 28 licensed

Príspevok od užívateľa DRracer » 06 Jan 2008, 14:46

:shock: are you sure, that you have found a licensed Tatra 28?
The T28 looks like this:
http://www.tatraportal.sk/?ukaz=popisky ... sk#fotogal
There have been only 2 trucks made in 1931 in Tatra, the rest were busses built a few years later.

If yes, I guess most of the parts can be used from a T27, there have been built quite a few and some parts still may be available.
Anyway, you can always contact the Tatra Technical Musem for detailed technical info.

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Re: Loraine 28 TARA 28 licensed

Príspevok od užívateľa KeesSmit » 06 Jan 2008, 20:58

Lorraine acquired several Tatras in the thirties. Most well known is the T72 of course but in 1934-1935 I think they got a T28. It was a 100% Tatra and was not license built by Lorraine.

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Re: Loraine 28 TARA 28 licensed

Príspevok od užívateľa Neregistrovaný » 08 Jan 2008, 01:09

The véhicle is really a LORRAINE 28 built under TATRA 28 licence in 1938/1939 for french army.Obrázok

It is the Infantry personal carrier for "DRAGONS PORTES"
A similar vehicle was made whith long wheel base for fuel tank.

The name LORRAINE is writen on the caps of Hubs, so it as really be built by LORRAINE.
Maybe some of parts could have been sold by TATRA( But it seems difficult to think that french army used cars which parts comes from a foreing country, and so far over Germany!), We cannot say it is true or not on now . As soon as the car will be rebuilt, I think we will know more!

T72 as also be built under TATRA 72 licence
One is still running in France.
One (owned by a friend) is to not restored, whith a very lot of work to do!

I know TATRA Museum has a T27 and T 72, Is there still T 28 alive?

Is there Technical manuals (or repro)?

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Re: Loraine 28 TARA 28 licensed

Príspevok od užívateľa KeesSmit » 08 Jan 2008, 10:33


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Re: Loraine 28 TARA 28 licensed

Príspevok od užívateľa DRracer » 08 Jan 2008, 16:38

Wow, I didn't know the T28 was made by Lorraine. That's very interesting news :!:

Technical manuals: Tatra museum definitely has original technical manuals for the T27 (most of it should apply to T22 and T28 too). It was possible to buy a xerox copy a few years ago, I believe this option is still available. Write an email to technika@tatramuseum.cz.

PS: the image you attached to your post is not working

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Re: Loraine 28 TARA 28 licensed

Príspevok od užívateľa DRracer » 08 Jan 2008, 19:16

the imageshack image is working - what I see now is a beatiful ;) licensed Tatra 22, just as Kees Smit noted in his last comment.

You write that long versions of this have been built as tank trucks - those might be typed as licensed Tatra 28. Did the tank trucks have the pair of front wheels protecting the engine sump too? Do you have some more information about these Lorraine built trucks? I couldn't find anything about them on google ;)

Anyway, the T22 was built using the T27 parts.

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Re: Loraine 28 TARA 28 licensed

Príspevok od užívateľa Neregistrovaný » 09 Jan 2008, 00:21

Hello
The Lorraine 28 short wheel base (2,00m) was first shown to the French Army in Vincennes in 1934. It as front free wheel.
332 vehicles where delivered to th army from 1937 to 1939.
The long wheel base (3,20m) Lorraine 28 for fuel tank where made with 2 models
one for ''land' army with front free wheel :
6 for fuel and 2 for water (1937)
one for "french air force" for fuel (2000 liters)

With the TATRA licence, Lorraine as also built Lorraine 24/58 with 8500 l tank (100cv, 8,5 t carried weight) and Lorraine155 with cab over engine (1935 number not known) as prime mover (51 km/h, 1 as proto, )

All this is knwn from "L'Automobile sous l'Uniforme , François Vauvilliers, Massin Editeur)

Veterans French Army vehicle can be seen more in "Blindés et matériel" each 2 months ,
Lorraine 28 story is on N° 73 wich is available on
http://blindes-materiel.histoireetcolle ... 70-80.html

To end I can think Lorraine 28 could be based on Tatra 22 / 28 both or specialy and free developped from theese vehicles

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